Hi all,
Word on the street is that Bard is discontinuing their Ostycut bone biopsy needle, which we used for biopsy of superficial extremity lesions (i.e., hands and feet) because of its short length, small gauge and low profile.
Did anyone else use Ostycut?
What are you planning on replacing it with?
Thank you! Feel free to ‘reply all’ so we can share info.
Best regards,
Bill Morrison
Jefferson Hospital
Philadelphia
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The older Bonopty penetration/biopsy set can serve a similar purpose.
Kevin McGIll
UCSF
But that’s a bit long, and it’s coaxial which is a bit cumbersome for fingers, toes, etc
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I wouldn’t use it the same way it is used for other bone biopsies. The
coaxial aspect is not required. You can use the penetration set which is
14G/6.5 cm OR biopsy set 15G/13cm. I agree Ostycut is probably best for
small parts.
Kevin
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Bill – this is going to be a big problem for us here at HFHS as well… the 17G short ostycut is definitely preferred gauge and length for fingers/toes.
Is anyone else even getting asked to biopsy these areas routinely? If so what are you using?
I doubt the clinical services will be happy with FNA as an alternative, although truthfully most of the time they’re just looking to culture an organism…
DS
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I wouldn’t use it the same way it is used for other bone biopsies. The coaxial aspect is not required. You can use the penetration set which is 14G/6.5 cm OR biopsy set 15G/13cm. I agree Ostycut is probably best for small parts.
Kevin
But that’s a bit long, and it’s coaxial which is a bit cumbersome for fingers, toes, etc
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for the small parts stuff maybe a temno 22g 6cm?
(we’re a temno shop)
Peter C. Young, MD
Section Head, Division of Musculoskeletal Radiology
University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center
Case Western Reserve University
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I wouldn’t use it the same way it is used for other bone biopsies. The coaxial aspect is not required. You can use the penetration set which is 14G/6.5 cm OR biopsy set 15G/13cm. I agree Ostycut is probably best for small parts.
Kevin
But that’s a bit long, and it’s coaxial which is a bit cumbersome for fingers, toes, etc
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Toes are scary… I’ve heard of one case where the toe fell off during the procedure (I assume followed by a ‘Mr Bean’-like effort to put the toe back in position)
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Hi,
We rarely do FNAC- only as part of sclerotic bone lesion.
We used osteocyt for ribs, stermum, skull, fingers and toes.
But several cases were being referred for exposed bone- we punt those back to clinical service/podiatry for point-of-care service. So, the need became less. We use bonopty to get into a non-broken bone and soft tissue needle through it (monopty/technacut/another one- can’t remember thr name). Techacut also has vaccum much like breast mammotome) to aspirate cores from broken bone or through the bonopty outer needle.
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Bill – this is going to be a big problem for us here at HFHS as well… the 17G short ostycut is definitely preferred gauge and length for fingers/toes.
Is anyone else even getting asked to biopsy these areas routinely? If so what are you using?
I doubt the clinical services will be happy with FNA as an alternative, although truthfully most of the time they’re just looking to culture an organism…
DS
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Vice Chair, Radiology
Clinical Associate Professor, WSU School of Medicine
Department of Radiology – Musculoskeletal Division
Henry Ford Hospital & Health Network | 2799 West Grand Blvd | Detroit, MI 48202
313-916-3344 (office) | 313-916-9475 (fax) | dans (at) rad.hfh.edu
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I wouldn’t use it the same way it is used for other bone biopsies. The coaxial aspect is not required. You can use the penetration set which is 14G/6.5 cm OR biopsy set 15G/13cm. I agree Ostycut is probably best for small parts.
Kevin
But that’s a bit long, and it’s coaxial which is a bit cumbersome for fingers, toes, etc
____________
The older Bonopty penetration/biopsy set can serve a similar purpose.
Kevin McGIll
UCSF
Hi all,
Word on the street is that Bard is discontinuing their Ostycut bone biopsy needle, which we used for biopsy of superficial extremity lesions (i.e., hands and feet) because of its short length, small gauge and low profile.
Did anyone else use Ostycut?
What are you planning on replacing it with?
Thank you! Feel free to ‘reply all’ so we can share info.
Best regards,
Bill Morrison
Jefferson Hospital
Philadelphia
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In India we have never had the Ostycut available anyway.
So it’s a mix and match of multiple different guns from Cook and Bard. For sclerotic bone, use a 11G Cook diamond tip to enter and then through that, 18G or 16G gun to biopsy. Also aspirate, etc.
For fingers and toes, the smaller guns, each gun chosen depending on the situation.
Bhavin
Dr. Bhavin Jankharia
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Mumbai, India