OCAD – more comments

I agree with Rob Lambert. Have gentleman with both shoulders having this congenital dysplastic appearance.

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De: Robert Lambert <rlambert@ualberta.ca<mailto:rlambert@ualberta.ca>>
Date: ter., 13 de dez. de 2022 às 10:14
Subject: Re: OCAD
To: <cirombd@gmail.com<mailto:cirombd@gmail.com>>

Definitely not Charcot in my opinion.

This falls into the category of severe remodelling (without the gross destruction or dislocation you expect with Charcot) with convex glenoid and concave humeral head resulting in the reverse of the normal configuration.
I am fairly certain that it must be either developmental dysplasia or an early childhood insult such as trauma and/or humeral AVN – and this would be the shoulder equivalent of hip acetabular dysplasia, Perthe’s or slipped epiphysis –
and then secondary adult OA.

Rob

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 2:59 AM Ciro Duarte <cirombd@gmail.com<mailto:cirombd@gmail.com>> wrote:
reposting Brian’s comment, to spice up the discussion…
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De: brian A Howard <bmkm6632@gmail.com<mailto:bmkm6632@gmail.com>>
Date: seg., 12 de dez. de 2022 às 13:23
Subject: Re: OCAD
To: <cirombd@gmail.com<mailto:cirombd@gmail.com>>

Charcot arthropathy hmm where’s the destructive features debris density etc. Seems there is preservation of the capsular tissues and osteo articular surfaces. Developmental with underlying neuroma defect maybe or metaphysical dysplasia but not the atrophic destruction I know as Charcot arthropathy. Maybe the spectrum is wider than I have learned and taught.!!?

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 11:04 AM Ciro Duarte <cirombd@gmail.com<mailto:cirombd@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
most responses comment on Charcot’s osteoarthropathy.

thank you very much

Ciro

Em seg., 12 de dez. de 2022 às 08:56, Ciro Duarte <cirombd@gmail.com<mailto:cirombd@gmail.com>> escreveu:
“suspected rotator cuff tear”
the image study is still important!
65YF, pain and functional limitation.
severe osteoarthritis, probably secondary to dysplastic change in the shoulder.
agree?


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